The use of “du”

16 May

Many of my readers know that German, like many languages, has two forms of you. “Du” can signify an equal relationship (students for example automatically use “du” with each other because they are peers) or a close relationship. “Sie” is for people we don’t know or to whom we need to show formal respect.

As in many languages, this is changing. I still remember many years ago my Italian teacher telling us about “tu” and “lei” and saying with visible dismay that she had gone into a travel agency in Italy (see how old this story is ;-)) and booked something. When the agent needed her name, the agent said “Come ti chiama?” using the informal you. That hits hard if you’re used to being per “Sie” as a customer in a service situation.

Why bring this up now? This question of when to use which form of “you” has fascinated me for decades, and I have collected many stories. I’m writing about it today because the Kurier just had an article on something they called “das aufgezwungene Du”. This is when the person at the receiving end is not given a real choice about which “you” to use. I had a boss, for example, who had done his MBA in the USA and thought he was being modern (this was in the 1990s) in offering all of us the “du” form. Having already heard pretty negative things and also on my own having formed an unfavorable impression of him, I felt like saying “I don’t want to call you ‘du’!” In that case, it was because “du” implies a closeness I did not want to express in any way. I wanted to keep my distance. However, it was forced on me. (Very tricky thing to tell your boss “Don’t use ‘du’ with me.”)

The Kurier article opened with something I had never heard of, a new hashtag. Apparently, many people now sign off on their e-mails with the hashtag: #gerneperdu or “happy to be per du”. Such an article is not complete without citing Thomas Schäfer-Elmayer, owner of the most proper dancing school in Vienna and widely regarded as the expert on etiquette in Austria. (I went to Elmayer for dancing lessons and always said afterwards that I learned how to behave but not how dance, something I learned later at a dancing school in the 18th district.) For a gentleman older than I am and not known for his flexibility, he is remarkably relaxed about the move towards more “du” and less “Sie”. He did say, however, that putting such a hashtag in an e-mail is not good manners. The offer should be made personally, he feels. (At the least, I would say.)

Just a couple of the stories I have gathered over the years.

I was shocked to hear a journalist interviewing diva, Edita Gruberova, using the “du” form. A friend of mine, from Argentina, suggested that perhaps they had known each other for a long time, that is, before Gruberova became so very famous, and had been per “du” in those days. Once you are per “du” it would be very insulting (and most likely perceived as very arrogant) to go back to “Sie”.

There was an article in the Lufthansa magazine a number of years ago answering the question whether crews were per “du” or per “Sie”. They are per “du” to facilitate quick collaboration. There should be no hierarchy. People should feel free to speak up, if necessary. And the crews should come together quickly, mesh, so to speak, so that they can serve customers better. (This is the main reason given for having a “du” culture in any company.”) That said, I’m quite sure they are all still per “Sie” with the Board.

Twenty years ago or so, I was co-teaching with a colleague at a university of applied sciences in Krems. (Great wine after class. :-)) We taught in English, but the students would often come up with concerns in the break and speak German. My colleague, Viennese born and bred, was explicit that, while first names were acceptable when speaking English, “Frau Mag.” and “Sie” would be proper in German. That illustrates the usefulness of the difference, if you ask me. We were not their peers. We had to give them grades, for example. It’s not really fair for them to be mis-led by informality into forgetting that.

Finally, it used to be an honor for someone older and respected to offer the “du” form. It showed, again, greater equality, respect, and emotional closeness. Ah, well. One more thing biting the dust. What is the world coming to? 😉

The Ice Saints

16 May

This year — as, in fact, in many years — the Eisheiligen (“Ice Saints”) arrived pretty much on schedule, bringing a real drop in temperatures and, this year, some rain.. They haven’t quite left us yet so are a bit tardy in that respect, but the rain is desperately needed so I, for one, am not complaining.

Who are the Eisheiligen? This year I decided to look into the matter a little bit and turned to the German-language Wikipedia (see link below).

The first thing I noticed was that Wikipedia listed Mamertus on May 11th as the first “ice saint”. I had never heard of Mamertus, even though he was Archbishop of Vienna in the 5th century. Then I noticed that Mamertus apparently only counts in northern Germany. Bavaria and Austria consider the first “ice saint” to be Pankratius on May 12th. Here I am on familiar territory.

The other “ice saint” I always remember is the last one, die Kalte Sophie, on May 15th. From Wikipedia I learned that she was tacked on later, perhaps to accommodate the fact that Bavaria and Austria usually get the weather from northern Germany a day later. This explains why “our” ice saints start a day later and end a day later.

Anyway here they are with their dates: Mamertus (May 11), Pankratius (May 12), Servatius (May 13), Bonifatius (May 14), and, as stated above, Sophia (May 15).

Why are these saints special? It’s complicated, partly because the dates that have been handed down come from the Julian calendar and don’t align with the Gregorian calendar. In any case, it’s a little bit like the weather forecasts in the Farmers’ Almanac in the USA — there to help farmers plan their planting times but predicted on the basis of recognizable patterns far before any forecast can hope to be accurate. And, yet, the forecasts are right quite a bit of the time.

Here is the link to the article for the German speakers: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisheilige

An Update on the Trafik

9 May

It is re-opening! Sadly, it doesn’t look as if the two women who used to work there are taking it over. A few days ago, I saw three men trying to figure out the vending machine out front. In any case, as of Tuesday I should know more.

May Day 2026

1 May

And the band sounded especially tuneful and jaunty this morning.

Main themes were peace and freedom, two “F”s in German: Frieden and Freiheit. The banner in the photo says “Watch wars [without doing anything] and cut the budget for those fleeing them?” Interesting, but typical for the Social Democrats, that the sign uses the less negatively connoted “Flüchtende” (fleeing people) rather than the older, more loaded “Flüchtlinge” (refugees).

Vienna City Marathon (VCM) 2026

19 Apr

As mentioned on International Haiku Poetry Day, this will be shorter than usual. I’m glad I got to see the Marathon, though, and can write a little bit about what I saw.

Maybe this time I’ll start with the end. For the first time (I think), I’m uploading screenshots of the list of top 10 runners, women and men.

The men’s race was not at all close. The three top runners came in quite far apart, as you can see from the times listed. There was some hope that the record might be broken in the men’s race, but by Oqbe Kibrom, who was the favorite but came in second. In the women’s race, Tigist Gezahagn did break Vibian Chebkirui’s 2022 record. She ran the marathon in 2:20:06 compared to Chebkirui’s 2:20:59. In fact, Haftamnesh Tesfaye, who was a close second in the women’s race, also came in under Chebkirui’s record.

The women’s race was especially interesting because of those two top runners, who ran as a group with their pace setter. Apparently, they train together and it all looked very collaborative — at one point Tesfaye, who ran almost exclusively right behind Gezahagn, slipped and very briefly went down and Gezahagn took time to look over her shoulder and check — until the two of them entered the Ring, down at Wollzeile, and then Tesfaye made a move. It was quite suspenseful for a bit and then Gezahagn found it in her to simply pull away, to cross the finish line 12 seconds ahead.

First Austrians were, as you can see, Andreas Vojta and Eva Wutti, the same runners to come in first for Austria in 2025. Both were somewhat disappointed with their performances. Andreas Vojta was hoping for a personal best but did more or less as well as he did last year, both in terms of time and position. Eva Wutti was struggling at times and at one point in the Prater simply stopped, clearly in distress. She later mentioned that she was having muscle problems and that the heat affected her. (In fact, a lot of people talked about the heat. By the end, the ORF was saying that it was 23°C [about 73°F] — my thermometer showed about 18° [64°F] but OK. In any case, it was well over the 8° to 9°C that they last year, when it was barely above freezing, said are ideal.)

A couple of things I want to remember:

  • Once again there was a running reporter, Peter Herzog. Sometimes it was really hard to understand what he was saying because he, understandably, was breathing so hard. At one point, the reporters in the studio told him to stop talking and breathe! But in Viennese. Something like: “Schnauf dich jetzt a bisserl durch. Sprechen abstellen und atmen.”
  • To encourage Eva Wutti, a fan held up a quickly made sign that said “Zieh durch, Oida!” (“Keep going” or “Hang in there”) using the Viennese expression “Oida” that can mean almost anything (see link to YouTube video below). In this case, it was clearly affectionate and meant, I felt, to bring a smile.
  • In fact, the Viennese dialect and accent made a particular impression on me this time. One organizer of the race sounded German to me and that really stood out. Otherwise it was the Viennese, or perhaps simply Austrians, “unter sich” — among themselves.
  • Michael Buchleitner, a former top Austrian marathoner, now 56 years old, on hearing one of the no longer young Austrian runners say he was hoping to improve next year that there comes an age where there is no more room for improvement. True in other aspects of life as well — although not all aspects!
  • I find myself surprised at how young the runners are. The top runners seem to be mainly in their 20s. Obviously, I’ll have to jettision my idea that the marathon favors older runners because of the need for experience. I grew up with that perception. I now have no idea where it came from. (I thought it was from Frank Shorter, but he was 25 when he won his (first?) gold medal.) Ah, well.
  • How much attention was given this time to the “Verpflegung” or, basically, refreshments for the runners, and how important a role they play both in terms of what and when
  • The repeated emphasis from both commentators and runners that, while the outcome of any sporting event is unpredictable, those of marathons are especially so.
  • And, finally, that at the beginning the commentators were talking about a Harvard Medical School student who was running and had to be back in time for classes because attendance is mandatory. This is possible, they explained, because tomorrow is a holiday in Massachusetts because the Boston Marathon is being held — never realizing that the Boston Marathon is being held tomorrow because it is a holiday (Patriots Day). 😉

Some links:

Officially Ewa’s priceless video on the many uses of “Oida”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXR53ex4iI

The official VCM website: https://www.vienna-marathon.com/

And it turns out the VCM has its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_City_Marathon

In Honor of International Haiku Poetry Day

17 Apr

A kind relative alerted me the date. April 17th is International Haiku Poetry Day. So here is a haiku — written off the cuff as I always feel haiku should be (but which I don’t always achieve).

Blue skies and bright sun

Lilacs a little early

Yes! Spring is springing

(The photo is from a few days ago. The sky is blue and the sun is shining today.)

FYI – The Vienna City Marathon is on Sunday. Stand by for the usual report (which, however, due to circumstances, will probably be shorter than usual).

Kommissar Rex is back!

13 Apr

Different actors. Different Rex, of course. Same beautiful cityscapes and Wiener Schmäh.

Here is what I wrote on the 30th anniversary of the original series: ttps://ecbinvienna.com/2024/02/17/kommissar-rex/

Klaffende Lücke bei mentaler Gesundheit or A Big Divergence in Mental Health

27 Mar

https://orf.at/stories/3424934/

From September 2024 through June 2025, about 16,000 people from 11 different European countries were asked, at intervals, questions about their mental health.

The study showed significant differences, as the photo shows, among countries — with Austria, surprisingly, if you ask me, coming in second after Belgium. In Hungary, under half the population assessed their mental health as good or very good.

A few other points mentioned: the data comes from the respondents’ self-assessments, in Austria there has been slight improvement overall and especially among younger respondents, and socio-economic factors, including climate change, play a significant role.

More in English from the source: https://infra4nextgen.com/

That Glass of Water at a Coffeehouse

1 Mar

That glass of water in Viennese coffeehouses has been under fire for a number of years. True, you still get one small glass of the fabulous Viennese tap water with your coffee, but you can no longer count on it being considered “perfectly normal to ask for another glass, or even several extra glasses” as my Baedeker’s Vienna assured its readers in 1988.

In fact, a year or two ago, I was breakfasting at Landtmann. Knowing that they had started charging for tap water, I pointed, to be explicit, to the small glass that had come with my coffee and said, “Noch ein Glas Wasser, bitte.” They brought a mini carafe and charged EUR 1.50 for it. A reason not to go back, if you ask me.

In the Kurier, picked up at the supermarket yesterday as the Trafik is still closed, there was a story about precisely this — but Café Landtmann came off better this time. A family had been celebrating the birthday of a great aunt at Landtmann. Once all the others were gone, one family member asked if he might stay for a bit and read the newspapers. The waiter’s answer? “We close at 11 p.m.” (Quite an open invitation these days when, even in Vienna, you are sometimes informed that you have the table for two hours only.)

The author of that piece, Wolfgang Kralicek, is himself the owner of a café and added a story from his own experience. The record for number of glasses of water to one coffee is seven(!). He then writes that the guest in question left such a large tip that he could easily have ordered a second Melange. Just goes to show it’s not always about the money.

Zentangle(R) in Vienna

21 Feb

I spent the morning at a Zentangle(R) course at that wonderful institution, the Volkshochschule — or VHS, as it is known informally. The VHS is the extensive, varied, and affordable network of continuing ed institutions in this case run by the city of Vienna.

The course exceeded in every way my expectations and was a really good investment of my time and money.

What I also wanted to report on was an intercultural aspect — the perception of punctuality. I arrived two or three minutes before the official starting time, was the last person to arrive, and felt a little as if I had kept people waiting. And this on a Saturday morning! For a leisure time activity! Note to self: two to three minutes before the official starting time is already late.