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The use of “du”

16 May

Many of my readers know that German, like many languages, has two forms of you. “Du” can signify an equal relationship (students for example automatically use “du” with each other because they are peers) or a close relationship. “Sie” is for people we don’t know or to whom we need to show formal respect.

As in many languages, this is changing. I still remember many years ago my Italian teacher telling us about “tu” and “lei” and saying with visible dismay that she had gone into a travel agency in Italy (see how old this story is ;-)) and booked something. When the agent needed her name, the agent said “Come ti chiama?” using the informal you. That hits hard if you’re used to being per “Sie” as a customer in a service situation.

Why bring this up now? This question of when to use which form of “you” has fascinated me for decades, and I have collected many stories. I’m writing about it today because the Kurier just had an article on something they called “das aufgezwungene Du”. This is when the person at the receiving end is not given a real choice about which “you” to use. I had a boss, for example, who had done his MBA in the USA and thought he was being modern (this was in the 1990s) in offering all of us the “du” form. Having already heard pretty negative things and also on my own having formed an unfavorable impression of him, I felt like saying “I don’t want to call you ‘du’!” In that case, it was because “du” implies a closeness I did not want to express in any way. I wanted to keep my distance. However, it was forced on me. (Very tricky thing to tell your boss “Don’t use ‘du’ with me.”)

The Kurier article opened with something I had never heard of, a new hashtag. Apparently, many people now sign off on their e-mails with the hashtag: #gerneperdu or “happy to be per du”. Such an article is not complete without citing Thomas Schäfer-Elmayer, owner of the most proper dancing school in Vienna and widely regarded as the expert on etiquette in Austria. (I went to Elmayer for dancing lessons and always said afterwards that I learned how to behave but not how dance, something I learned later at a dancing school in the 18th district.) For a gentleman older than I am and not known for his flexibility, he is remarkably relaxed about the move towards more “du” and less “Sie”. He did say, however, that putting such a hashtag in an e-mail is not good manners. The offer should be made personally, he feels. (At the least, I would say.)

Just a couple of the stories I have gathered over the years.

I was shocked to hear a journalist interviewing diva, Edita Gruberova, using the “du” form. A friend of mine, from Argentina, suggested that perhaps they had known each other for a long time, that is, before Gruberova became so very famous, and had been per “du” in those days. Once you are per “du” it would be very insulting (and most likely perceived as very arrogant) to go back to “Sie”.

There was an article in the Lufthansa magazine a number of years ago answering the question whether crews were per “du” or per “Sie”. They are per “du” to facilitate quick collaboration. There should be no hierarchy. People should feel free to speak up, if necessary. And the crews should come together quickly, mesh, so to speak, so that they can serve customers better. (This is the main reason given for having a “du” culture in any company.”) That said, I’m quite sure they are all still per “Sie” with the Board.

Twenty years ago or so, I was co-teaching with a colleague at a university of applied sciences in Krems. (Great wine after class. :-)) We taught in English, but the students would often come up with concerns in the break and speak German. My colleague, Viennese born and bred, was explicit that, while first names were acceptable when speaking English, “Frau Mag.” and “Sie” would be proper in German. That illustrates the usefulness of the difference, if you ask me. We were not their peers. We had to give them grades, for example. It’s not really fair for them to be mis-led by informality into forgetting that.

Finally, it used to be an honor for someone older and respected to offer the “du” form. It showed, again, greater equality, respect, and emotional closeness. Ah, well. One more thing biting the dust. What is the world coming to? 😉

Klaffende Lücke bei mentaler Gesundheit or A Big Divergence in Mental Health

27 Mar

https://orf.at/stories/3424934/

From September 2024 through June 2025, about 16,000 people from 11 different European countries were asked, at intervals, questions about their mental health.

The study showed significant differences, as the photo shows, among countries — with Austria, surprisingly, if you ask me, coming in second after Belgium. In Hungary, under half the population assessed their mental health as good or very good.

A few other points mentioned: the data comes from the respondents’ self-assessments, in Austria there has been slight improvement overall and especially among younger respondents, and socio-economic factors, including climate change, play a significant role.

More in English from the source: https://infra4nextgen.com/

Zentangle(R) in Vienna

21 Feb

I spent the morning at a Zentangle(R) course at that wonderful institution, the Volkshochschule — or VHS, as it is known informally. The VHS is the extensive, varied, and affordable network of continuing ed institutions in this case run by the city of Vienna.

The course exceeded in every way my expectations and was a really good investment of my time and money.

What I also wanted to report on was an intercultural aspect — the perception of punctuality. I arrived two or three minutes before the official starting time, was the last person to arrive, and felt a little as if I had kept people waiting. And this on a Saturday morning! For a leisure time activity! Note to self: two to three minutes before the official starting time is already late.

May Day 2025

1 May

And the SPÖ (Social Democrats) are marching again. This year, the parade looks a little bigger than the past few years, perhaps because of their solid results in the elections last Sunday. Beautiful weather and a well-trained brass band are part of the tradition.

Not surprisingly, one of the banners called for solidarity. This took me back to an exercise I used to do with my U.S. American summer school students in Vienna.

To highlight one of the major differences in worldview that I see between the USA and Europe, I would ask my students for their associations with the word “solidarity.” This question was almost invariably met with confusion. What associations should they have with that word? Then I would give them examples of what my Austrian students of the same age would answer: Lech Walesa, of course, sticking together, and taking care of each other. Some Austrian students would even get into the political aspects and how solidarity is built into the systems here. I see the common use of and familiarity with the word “solidarity” as a cultural artifact for the more collectivist system here.

My little intercultural comment for today. 😉

We like to take our time in Vienna

3 Oct

I couldn’t resist this postcard, which I sent to my mother. (She’s been worried about what Putin might do since before he invaded Ukraine.)

What it says is: When the end of the world comes, go to Vienna. It’ll happen 20 years later there.

WorldSkills 2024 – Suddenly World Champion

21 Sep

Mastery. Part of flourishing, according to the  positive psychology field. (PERMA for Positive Emotions, Engagement, Positive Relationships, Meaning, and Achievement or mastery)

I love the fact that there is a worldwide competition for the trades. Austria’s gold medalists this year won for flower arranging, tile laying, and work with concrete. The silver medal for painting (e.g., doors) went to a young Austrian woman.

Why am I drawn to writing about this every year? Because I think athletes get too big a share of the glory. Being uniquely good at flower arranging – or building with concrete – is also a wonderful thing and needs to be celebrated more. (I love the Scripps National Spelling Bee, too, for providing celebration of another non-athletic achievement, not to mention often offering an alternative route to a better life for children from disadvantaged backgrounds.)

Additionally, I love seeing young people getting satisfaction out of working with their hands. I may teach at a university (and love academic work myself), but I think far too many students are pushed into it for the prestige. I feel we would all be better off if everyone were encouraged to find what they’re really interested in and were then supported in achieving mastery of it.

Anyway, congratulations to all the competitors at the WorldSkills competition! As the mother of one them said, “In our eyes, they have all already won. To make it to the world championships is such an unbelievable success.”

How refreshing

10 Dec

I have just bought replacements for my hiking boots, which served long and well until the bottoms dropped off. (We could get up to 5 cms of snow tomorrow so this seemed like a good moment.)

What was refreshing about this experience? When I asked if they had already been waterproofed, I was told yes, they were ready to go so I didn’t need to buy the waterproofing spray I had in my hand. Even in Vienna, many businesses have succumbed to what I call the McDonald’s mentality. You know, if you only order a hamburger, they ask if you want fries with it; and if you order the hamburger with fries, they ask if you want an apple pie with it. In German, you could call it the “Dazu-Mentalität” because the phrase is “Pommes dazu?” or “Apfeltascherl dazu?”

I was really grateful that Jack Wolfskin, the shop where I bought my boots, has not succumbed.

Pension office

22 Nov

I went to the pension office this morning to clarify a few points and saw that some things have really changed in Austria and some things haven’t.

One thing that has changed: the woman in front of me in line at the reception desk was talking about her “Partnerins” (female partner’s) appointment. When there was some confusion about her name, she explained that when they had married she had taken on her partner’s family name and officially changed it on all her documents. Then I overheard that she herself isn’t self-employed but rather her partner, and she would like to be covered under her partner’s insurance.

This would have been unimaginable even five years ago (Austria enacted “Ehe für Alle” or “Marriage for All” on 1 January 2019, building on the civil union that became possible in 2010). For anyone who would like more information, here is a website (in German) giving an overview of the history of same-sex marriage as well as legal details: https://www.familienrechtsinfo.at/eherecht/ehe-fuer-alle/

Something that hasn’t yet changed? When I came out of my appointment, there was a man waiting, with his large, well-behaved, non-service dog. Wish I’d known I could have taken Maylo!

Halloween comes to Vienna

1 Nov

The backstage view of a Viennese house

2 Feb

The old (1970s) WienEnergie building on Spitalgasse has been torn down to make room for a new “campus” for the medical school of the University of Vienna. This makes perfect sense–the general hospital is nearby, the old general hospital was turned into a proper campus for the University of Vienna a little over 20 years ago, and one semi-public building (the utilities provider was municipally owned at one time and then hived off) will remain in public hands. (The University of Vienna is a public university.) In addition, not even this defender of older buildings is sorry to see the olive green and orange structure go. I’ll be curious to see what comes.

In the meantime, the clearing of the site has laid the neighboring house open to scrutiny and shows some interesting things about Viennese buildings and, in fact, culture. Appearances are quite important in Vienna. (A friend of mine who has lived in Boston, London, Paris, Amsterdam, and Washington D.C. as well as in Vienna said that Vienna is the only city she has lived in where you got better service at the deli counter in the supermarket if you had put your make-up on.) For me, this focus on appearances is reflected in the relatively ornate facade of the house (the photo on the left) compared to the plainness of back of the house, with wing (the photo on the right). At the same time, it is often said that the imposing facades of the turn-of-the-century houses in Vienna hide some of the nicest aspects. These are for house residents only. This I see in what appears to be a small garden with a tree. That is probably quite a nice place to sit out–or will be again once the building project is complete!

An example of what is called a cultural artifact in the intercultural world …